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ADSL in UAE |
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| ADSL, sold to us as a 24 hour
service - which is put as: 'No dial up, "Always On" connectivity', is actually a 6 hour service. Every session you log on has an expiry time of 6 hours. (actually now lowered to 3 hours) That means every 6 hours your ADSL line will be disconnected by Emirates Internet if the expiry time does not get refreshed. |
So when the Al Shamil ADSL service boasts:- 'Al Shamil gives you "Always On " Internet access. Just start your Internet browser or your e-mail software and you are on,' It is a blatant lie. But then, we are so used to lies now from Etisalat and its sister companies. |
| So why might Emirates Internet want to disconnect
you? The Help Desk candidly say that: They want to make sure you do not have a fixed IP number. Thus they disconnect you periodically so that you might be assigned a new IP number. |
Quite an absurd way to make your life miserable. Often after a disconnection, the software and hardware EIM have provided for ADSL means the only easy way to reconnect is to reboot the computer. |
Latest Update 12/Feb/01 Have you noticed the lease time on ADSL is no longer 6 hours, but a paltry 3 hours! |
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| We have been monitoring
the ADSL connection over the past one week. Download speeds are advertised as being up to 384Kbps and
uploads of 128Kbps. Mon 13/Nov see ADSL speeds back above 250Kbps. EIM send out a broadcast mail message to its customers apologizing for the debacle, and then try and qualify it by saying: ...as well we would like to inform you |
The Internet speeds with ADSL again slowed down to a
crawl from midnight Sat 11/Nov, and continues at a crawl on Sun 12/Nov. As usual the Help Desk vehemently claims there are no problems on the Networks, even after multiple reports from angry customers. Are they covering up? Or are the Etisalat Engineers withholding the true story again? View proof of the slowdowns on the graph from the 5th to the 13th (14-Nov - 70 K jpg). ADSL really jumping up and down, but basically the speeds are within an acceptable range the past few days. 5th to the 18th (19-Nov - 110 K jpg). |
| We took it upon ourselves to monitor the ADSL connection over the past 72
hours. This was what led us to the discovery of the 6 hour expiry time of each session. Saturday night, 4 Nov, ADSL was humming along at well over 250Kbps. Sunday, 5 Nov, all day, speeds have yet to cross 10Kbps, with an average closer to 8Kbps. All Sunday night and Monday 6 Nov, ADSL speeds still stay below 10Kbps. This is less than 5% of their advertised speed. A graph of performance (6-Nov -
51 K jpg). 11th November Slowdown again (11-Nov - 59 K jpg). |
Tests were performed both to a remote file: www.esynch.com/mw_test.dat and to a local file at: www.etisalat.co.ae/images/welcome1.gif Back to Dial-up 56K while the Finally on Wed 8/Nov ADSL speeds get back to a decent level. Will Etisalat refund us for 3 days of misery? You can try if you dare.
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Can anyone explain the constant DHCP Error message? |
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Your Feedback
Chris
For those live outside Dubai emirate can purchase it from UAEMALL. Follow this URL:
http://www.uaemall.net/main.asp?AGSH=STEP&AGGR=srchfld=adsl+usb+modem,H_Category,Manufacturer,N_SubCategory&AGHD=Average%20Price%20Dhs&AGOP=avg&THMC=6666CC&SORT=modified&BANR=COMP&SRT=SubCategory:Subcategory,Price:Price&LVL=1&COLS=1&NAV=2&BRAN=ODBC&DEPT=COMP&Pg=12&OUF=&fd=116&LAYO=Full
Or call 800 2202. They will do a next day cash on delivery.
Did anybody make the XP drivers work wit hthe 4020 modems?
Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows Millennium Edition (ME), Windows 98 SE, and Windows 98 (1483 only)
for the SpeedStream 3060, 3061, 4031, 4060, and 5667 (USB) DSL modems.
http://support.efficient.com/drivers/ss30/index.shtml
Thanks for the info Masterkey :)
I hope this helps... since I don't want to reset my settings to check the exact procedure.
I am looking for other hardware ADSL modems... but how do I know if they work with Etisalat... I am sure they'll say ONLY Efficient...
The only thing that works 100% in Etisalat is the billing printer !!!
BUT THEY DO... just choose (1483 Routed Ethernet) MANUALLY. BUT for some reason it takes time to connect to the network... sometimes requiring a reboot just to try to reconnect... but it works... better than nothing !!!!
:)
Does anyone have a solution to prevent the conflict between 4060 DSL modem and Creative SBLive! Souncard? The card has to be disabled for DSL to work else the connection hangs on downloads.
Does the new drivers help in Win98 with it? How does one install it step by step?
I think it's the IRQ sharing thing but it does not seem to work though.
Please help.......
becasue i have done what you said, but didnt work!
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do anyone know a adsl router or network sold in uae
shokran
I haven't put it through its paces yet, but for a whole day it gave me no problems. I'll repost during the week after I've seen how it copes under heavy traffic.
For now, all those who can't be bothered waiting for Etisalat to produce Win2k drivers for their modems, head on down to Al Ain Centre (i.e. Computer Plaza) next to Spinney's Ramada. Take the escalator, turn right, the shop is the second one from Creative's.
P.S. I've tried the modem in Win98 and Win2000, but NOT in XP.
Thanks for the lead again Stefan :)))
Get the KYE DSLI-800 (http://www.kyecom.com/html/fullrate.html) internal PCI modem. (I bought it at the Al Ain Computer Plaza (1st floor, right-hand side) for DHS 375,-).
Use the following settings:
Protocol: classical IP over ATM, VPI=0, VCI=100
Works just perfect!
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Cheers
ETISALAT: You are getting *UP* my service!
When you install the 4060, the "It is now safe to shut down" screen in win9x tends to disappear. In my case its replaced by orange and black stripes down the screen!!
Anyone know of a fix for this?
Andy dyrnwynn@HotMail.com wrote on March
10, 2001 at 13:40:11 :
On December 23, 2000, Davie me@davie.com wrote >>>> bye bye
speedstream!!!!!!!!!!3Com are just about to get type approval for their NAT DSL router.
i.e. it works in UAE on Al Shamil.No more win9x!!!!!!I will be testing one next week and
let you all know how it works. <<<< Any progress?????
LM Admin@AntiProxy.com wrote on February
24, 2001 at 16:11:49 :
hi all. i need help from someone that has the business 1 ADSL Service.. if any of you has
it, please e-mail me,. i just have one simple question,.. Regards, LM
cyberonics cyberonics@hotmail.com wrote
on February 17, 2001 at 02:45:03 :
Why don't you all buy your own DSL modems, instead of going through Etisalat. You know
that PCI and USB modem's aren't great. The Efficient USB and the ethernet model run on the
came VCI which is 35. I actually use DSL in Houston, Texas with a local provider and they
too give out the same modems as Etisalat does. However the ethernet DSL modem works great.
With any operating system. Its like a network connection. By the way I am using Efficient
Networks 5260. The best place to buy it is over EBay..
Here is some feedback we received on EIM's Business one service (Thu, 1 Feb 2001) :
Our company recently installed BusinessOne.
The Etisalat Service is B A D.
1st it took ages to get the papers processed at Etisalat.
They were on hold because of a misunderstanding on Etisalat's side. They just keep them on hold until you come back and check why no-one is calling you to inform about the installation. Finally after more than one month, they install the router. You have to pay in advance to get a password. They come an install a CISCO Router and leave you.
Fine. Surfing works but How do we use the email accounts?
You try calling the Sales people, they NEVER EVER reply. So you go over to Etisalat. They give you a number to call. You call that number in AUH they give you a number in DXB. The guys in DXB tell you, you have to log on to consolve.businessone.net.ae.
Fine you go there and try to log on but the PassWord you got previously is for the Router only. You call Dubai again and they tell you they have to create an account for you. That takes over a week!!!!!! And they managed to get it done that fast only because you keep calling every second day asking for the progress.
No you have the user ID and PassWord . You log on to the console and create an account.
What mail server do you connect to???????????????
mail.emirates.net.ae doesn't work.
You call them again they tell you to use vmail.emirates.net.ae
Ok, whatever. It still doesn't work. You call again they tell you when configuring your
client use the form username+domainname.
Then it works.
How can a user change the PassWord of the account the admin created?
You figure that you log on to the same console, but with the users' account.
It works.
THIS IS THE WORST SERVICE I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!
Incredible what these people can get away with!!!!!
I bet no one at Etisalat ever took the time to plan the process of applying B1 from the
start until the end.
It seems every department is working out of synch in is trying to do it's part.
Is it so difficult to write a small guide telling people how to use the system????
Signed
A VERY ANGRY ETISALAT CUSTOMER
Meanwhile we have hard that major delays in shifting ADSL lines were due to a technical problem Etisalat were facing.
What was the Technical Problem?
Their computer program couldn't print out the Service Order requisition!
Pathetic? or Pathetic?
Merta7 steeda2002@hotmail.com wrote on
February 09, 2001 at 03:11:00 :
Hi everyone, Anyone can help me to setup ADSL in WIN 2000 Pro. if anyone want to help
please e-mail me at steeda2002@hotmail.com sanx
Subin bkbn001@yahoo.com wrote on January 25,
2001 at 11:09:45 :
Can anyone help me with drivers for 3010 SpeedStream PCI card. The guys came from Etisalat
and installed the card in my PC, but they did not give the driver cd to me. After many
calls and visits to Etisalat I still don't have the CD. What a wonderful way to trouble
people! I tried to contact Efficient Netowks, but their answer was disappointing. They
have already stopped development for this particular card. Is Etisalat so dumb or are they
acting smart? You are left with a card for which no new drivers will be developed. And
none of the built-in drivers in the current OSs will work. Great service!!
LM Admin@Antiproxy.com wrote on January
13, 2001 at 01:54:13 :
internet slowed down in some main areas in the UAE like Sharjah and some two locations in
Dubai
the average Download speed is less than 28.8!!
etisalat had no further comments. except saying that there is a problem in one main router
between dubai and sharjah
i spoke to them and they logged a case..
check what the employee had written in the case info:
Case ID: 91401
Case Status: Pending
Reported Date: 13/01/2001 02:35:42
Platform: Personal Computer (IBM compatible)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 2000 professional
Title: ADSL Slow Browsing and
Problem Details: ADSL # XXXXXXXXXXX
Customer is face problem in releaseing the IP Address it is very loose.Please cheeck
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what else can i say??
check up how long does pinging the DNS Servers take now!
ping 194.170.1.6
Pinging 194.170.1.6 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 194.170.1.6: bytes=32 time=1011ms TTL=247
Reply from 194.170.1.6: bytes=32 time=862ms TTL=247
Reply from 194.170.1.6: bytes=32 time=911ms TTL=247
Reply from 194.170.1.6: bytes=32 time=952ms TTL=247
Ping statistics for 194.170.1.6:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 862ms, Maximum = 1011ms, Average = 934ms
Any comments??
Regards
LM
LM Admin@antiproxy.com wrote on January
12, 2001 at 19:35:16 :
hi again,
today something broke down in etisalat`s servers affecting all ADSL users, and leaving
them with a 10% usable internet connection.
apparently. it seems that the Transparent proxies all went down alltogether..
( A strike or something! ).
and direct connections to any site outside EIM Network isnt possible untill further
notice.
thus.
ICQ / IRC / External POP3 mail / public proxies, are not accessible any more..
speed degraded down to a pathetic 110k Download to a 50k Upload.
Nice eh?!
Regards
LM
A disappointed Etislalat User ?@?.net wrote on January
09, 2001 at 13:07:34 :
How long till this site gets proxied?Its a great idea!(Not to proxy it)Otherwise, Brill!
Chris psychopath_chris@yahoo.com
wrote on January 03, 2001 at 21:42:23 :
Is dsl available in dubai now?
Free 2Free@usa.net wrote on December 31, 2000 at
19:23:29 :
Peter - it would all ofcourse depend on what DSL modem you have. Which one is it? The
Efficient Internal 3020?
Peter wrote on December 24, 2000 at 01:27:23 :
I have ADSL from ETISALAT and did not suffer any of what you claim. AT AED250 monthly
charge and bandwidth of above 300Kbps (try bandwidth meter at www.2wire.com, there is
nothing to complain about.Then again if you stop complaining, it might mean closing this
site!!
Davie me@davie.com wrote on December 23, 2000 at
09:48:33 :
bye bye speedstream!!!!!!!!!!3Com are just about to get type approval for their NAT DSL
router. i.e. it works in UAE on Al Shamil.No more win9x!!!!!!I will be testing one next
week and let you all know how it works.
LM L.M@pop3free.com wrote on December 10,
2000 at 10:10:02 :
S Drumev.. e-mail me.L.M@pop3free.comi MIGHT be able to helpRegards..
S Drumev drumev_79@yahoo.com wrote on
December 05, 2000 at 11:07:35 :
Hi I am one of the all disappointed users of Etisalat Internet.
Let me tell you my story ( I am sorry if I have mistakes).
I paid for my ADSL connection on 28/10/00 and on 30/10/00 one guy came to check the cable
and he told me that the resistance is a bit high but if I have paid for ADSL and I want
ADSL, it is their job to take care about this issue and everything will be ok!
It was 18/11/00 when I got really mad and I went to Etisalat to check what is going on
after trying to get some information by the phone, but as you know it is impossible to
make Etisalat understand anything by phone. When I went there, at first nobody gave me an
ADSL account number. It took a long time to have them find the number, and after waiting a
long time, one guy told me that my connection has been cancelled. I couldn't believe it
without anybody calling me to tell me, they had canceled my ADSL application!
This is unacceptable. Idiots. I hate them. And when I asked for my money back, they told
me that they are going to transfer them to my GSM or to my phone account which I don't use
so much especially the home phone which is only for Internet, and for nothing else. I try
to send email to them with all that story and staff like that but nothing.
Every time I call on the phone they tell me call to the other one , on the next one they
tell me call to the previous one and like that until I don't know when.
I am sorry for the mistakes as I am still improving my English. I want to ask you if you
can please give me some advice on what to do with these people.
Thank you in advance.
LM L.M@pop3free.com wrote on December 05,
2000 at 09:16:29 :
Read the e-mail pasted below.. i dont think i need to comment.!
Dear Al Shamil user:
You might be experiencing some difficulty with your ADSL connection, due to an upgrade in
our network.
If your are having difficulty in browsing, we recommend that you use the troubleshooting
steps listed below:
Problem: ADSL modem installed, but unable to browse.
Hardware: Efficient 4020 USB Modem, Efficient 3020 Internal modem.
Action 1:
* Check ADSL status icon on Windows task bar.
* ADSL synchronization okay. Proceed to Action 2
* No ADSL synchronization. Ensure that the cable is properly connected to the wall jack.
If status remain the same, contact EIM helpdesk.
Action 2:
* Press the start button on the task bar and select "Run".
* In the dialogue box that pops up, enter "winipcfg" and press OK.
* When the IP Configuration screen comes up, select the SpeedStream Adapter from the drop
down list if it is not already selected.
* Press the "Release" button and then the "Renew" button.
* If you are still not able to browse please call the EIM helpdesk 800 5244.
We thank you for your time and patience and be assured that we are doing all we can to
overcome these difficulties as quickly as possible.
Best regardsThe Customer Services TeamEmirates Internet & Multimedia
wrote on November 26, 2000 at 13:22:54 :
Just recently subscribed to DSL service and still after well over two weeks, my service
keeps disconnecting every 20 minutes.
As well, MS Messenger, which I used to use for dialing the US, now disconnects after 5
minutes.
Am I alone- I do not think so.
Thanks
LM l.m@pop3free.com wrote on November 23,
2000 at 07:49:42 :
Adsl UPLOAD/Download speed has degraded noticably!** Speed 177(down)/75(up) kbps **!!
LM L.M@pop3free.com wrote on November 23,
2000 at 07:16:46 :
Few days ago, i sent a fax to the Engineering Department manager of Etisalat, complaining
about getting Disconnected each 6 hours!
The IP Lease for ADSL Expires after 6 hours from the time it was obtained.
It gets renewed automatically, and you get the same damn IP!.
But 4 some reason windows fails to go online again after the new lease is obtained, unless
i renew the Lease by my self..etisalat took some action to correct the problem, and the
only thing they did was, increasing the lease period to 12 hours instead of 6!!its better
than nothing isnt it??
tell me what u think..RegardsLM
Svetoslav drumev_79@yahoo.com wrote on
November 19, 2000 at 21:55:15 :
I don't mind to post my story there!Thank you for the support!!!
Free 2Free@usa.net wrote on November 14, 2000 at
23:50:15 :
That Al Shamil proxy was bugging me.
Decided I had to know how well it compared.
Well, it's considerably faster than all the rest of the proxies I tested. And you can use
it of your dial up 56K and ISDN too!
195.229.208.5 Port 10010:)
LM l.m@pop3free.com wrote on November 12,
2000 at 13:38:49 :
well!.. it seems that my last three messages were deleted, --inadvertently--. any how,,as
a reply to free, the proxy that ADSL is using actually resides on 195.229.208 subnet its
usually is 195.229.208.5 or 195.229.208.10 try to scan that subnet for port 80 services,
you will get alot of hosts.. try to connect, you will get some wierd authentication page,
( level 15 somthing ).
ADSL lines sucked big time in the past 3 days.. today i have reports saying that they
are back to normal speed. leased line users are advised to use a proxy rather than direct
access -- just for the time being -- latest news is, my DSL line got Disconnected!!!!!..
etisalat people called me up to sign a paper stating that my line is working fine.. and
when i refused to sign,, they disconnected my line :( now i have no other way but to
sign.. what an abusive service :( any comments??? i guess nothing much could be said any
how..
regards
Louis
The webteam apologize if anyone posted a message on 11/12 November that was inadvertently deleted.
Free 2Free@usa.net wrote on November 11, 2000 at
13:08:45 :
WHAT is the Proxy being used by ADSL right now ???
Is this where the bottlneck is for ADSL?
Because switching to the proxy1.emirates.net.ae still gave this weird IP 194.170.1.132 and
it whizzes through, while the normal direct connection is TERRIBLE !
Dubai0751 (~Dubai0751@194.170.1.132)
Canonical name: proxy1.emirates.net.ae
Addresses: 194.170.1.67 194.170.1.68 194.170.1.130 194.170.168.244 194.170.168.236
194.170.164.234 194.170.168.237
Louis l.m@pop3free.com wrote on November 10,
2000 at 23:22:57 :
The DHCP error occurs in the case of having Efficient speedstream 4020 more than any other
modem, efficient support says that the way drivers were developed for the ( Weird )
special case of etisalat, drops any responsibility off efficient networks to support any
problems that might occur, to simplify the case, when this error message shows up, in most
of the cases your modem would be Mis-Communicating with the servers, ( packets being sent
through the wrong channel ) because the CIP protocol that we are using utilises two
Circuits, one for transmitting, the other for receiving ( VCI 50 and 100 ) each of these
circuits should have a unique IP address ( which is the IPs of the gateways on your Subnet
). sometimes VCI 50 or 100 gets lost! ,.. no IPs are Given!, you might end up with no IP
address at all., or in the least cases you will have an internet connection that can only
SEND data or Receive data, -- that doesn't work anyways! -- generally speaking, microsoft
says that this error message usually shows up when there is timing problems between the
DHCP servers and the Clients, resulting in a fast timeout on the clients.
Etisalat is using this CIP protocol, because they are planning to expand the network. one
VCI will be linked up with the external network at a speed of 386Kb the other VCI will be
linked up with the internal network at a speed of 2,5Mb. I have all the proofs of their
plans. I also have the infrastructure plans for DSL services. so trust me... I know what I
am saying :)
redbmw redbmw@rocketmail.com wrote on
November 05, 2000 at 23:00:05 :
Thank god I did not apply yet!
Do you have any comments on this Article?
ADSL is now about to complete its 6th month of the 3 month Commercial trial period. It is still available only for home use. Offices are not given connections. Perhaps the "testing period" is based on profit projections? (13/Aug/00)
ADS
L's official testing period is actually NOT YET over, although their advertised 3 months period is over. However you can apply for your connection now for your RESIDENCE ONLY and join in at the unlimited rate and unlimited wait. (17/Jun/00 - revised 18/Jun/00 revised 27/Aug/00A little more update on Etisalat's ADSL, though still no mention of it on Emirates Internet Home page. And a good ADSL FAQ.
Basically this is what is says:
Al Shamil High Speed Internet Service offers download speeds up to 384 KBPS and
upload speeds of up to 128 KBPS.
* No dial up, "Always On" Connectivity
* Unlimited Internet Usage
* Fixed Monthly Subscription
Pricing
A one-time installation charge of Dhs.200/- is applicable.
Al Shamil Service is priced at Dhs 380/- per month for unlimited Internet usage.
This price includes the DSL line and the modem rental. No additional equipment is
necessary.
A six month subscription package is also available at Dhs. 1900/- ( a Dhs. 380/- saving).
You can still access the Internet from the Emirates Internet Dial Up Service from any
other location at the Standard Emirates Internet usage charges
Service U.A.E. Dirhams:
Installation charge (one time) 200.00
Monthly subscription 380.00
Six months subscription 1900.00
Miscellaneous
Shifting 200.00
Monthly temporary safe custody 60.00
(11/Mar/00)
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